12 Movies & 12 Songs for the 12 Days of Christmas (Even Though It's Not Yet the 12 Days of Christmas)

DECEMBER 24th, 2015

By LANA CARBON & JOHN LILIES

[John] Following our insane endeavour to watch 31 movies for 31 days of Hallowe’en, Lana decided we should watch 12 movies for the 12 days of Christmas. I did not freak out at this idea the same way I did for the 31 movies, as I figured 12 movies was entirely doable between December 1st and 25th.

For future reference, 12 movies in December is almost as difficult as 31 movies in October. We definitely did not take into account just how busy we would be this month; so I must admit at being a little happy that some of our movies were of the shorter variety and easy to fit into weeknights after a long work day.

The 12 movies for 12 days of Christmas idea is what sparked our conversation wondering about the 12 days of Christmas, that Lana spoke of in article 23.1. This plan of ours has led to some fun experiences including writing our own version of the 12 Days of Christmas that you read in article 23.2 … [Lana – On sale at a record store near you… NOT!].

While it was difficult to comment on each movie we watched in October, we decided we could speak a little bit on each of our 12 Christmas movie choices.

We would love to hear your thoughts on these movies… tweet us or comment on Facebook to let us know which of these you watched this year and which is your favourite.

With that, here we go… our own thoughts on our movie and song experiences:

Movies

1. The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992) – “Charles Dickens’ Classic Holiday Story Sparkles with Humor and Whimsy in the Hands of the Always Hilarious Muppets.” [John] This is one of my favourites (huge Muppets fan) and every time I watch, I look forward to the scene with Bob Cratchit (a.k.a. Kermit) walking home with Tiny Tim on his shoulders as they sing their way home. [Lana] I quite enjoy the banter between Gonzo as Dickens and Rizzo the Rat, as they narrate through the story. It gives a different twist to the tale.
2. National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation (1989) – “Yule Crack Up!” [John] I watched this for the first time in 2014, at Lana’s insistence. I may have found it a bit funnier this year but I’m likely not the fan that Lana is. [Lana] I have always wanted to take a trip down that hill on a greased up metal disc. I am always thankful that my brother is nothing like Eddie.
3. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (1966) – “Christmas Day is in His Grasp.” [John] This is an annual must-watch for me if I want to have any semblance of the Christmas feeling. I have yet to watch the Jim Carrey version and I continue to resist. [Lana] *Breaks into You’re a Mean One Mister Grinch* I would still take the Grinch over a seasick crocodile.
4. Miracle on 34th Street (1947) – “Capture the Spirit of Christmas with This Timeless Classic.” [John] I finally watched this for the first time in 2014 and definitely wanted to see it again this year, before trying out the re-make with Mara Wilson. I suspect Lana will have me watch the re-make next year. [Lana] As I’ve said before, the re-make of this movie is one of the few that I enjoy as much as the original. So it was really a toss-up as to which we would watch. I think I do prefer the ending of the original better.
5. Scrooged (1988) – “Bill Murray is Back Among the Ghosts. Only This Time, It’s Three Against One.” [John] I watch this because Lana loves it. (I think I just broke Lana’s heart.) [Lana] But… but… but… Bill Murray! Bobcat Goldwaith! Hilarity ensues! This is a Christmas classic! [John] Sorry… truly. Just not my kinda classic. **Lana won’t stop staring at me now… in total disbelief.**
6. A Christmas Story (1983) – “Sometimes Christmas is About Getting What You Really Want.” [John] Love. Love. Love. Every. Year. [Lana] I remember seeing kids dressed up like Randy. I felt as bad for them as I did for him. I think my dad swears the same way as Ralphy’s dad. I have always wanted, and continue to really want a leg lamp.
7. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (1964) – “The Most Famous Reindeer of All Time.” [John] Not Christmas without Rudolph. “I’m cude! I’m cude! She said I’m cude!!” I always say that I am a misfit of the misfits on the Island of Misfit Toys (and proud of it). [Lana] I’m just glad Santa came to his senses.
8. The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) – “A Ghoulish Tale With a Wicked Sense of Humor and Stunning Animation.” [John] My ultimate Christmas movie. Thank you Jack Skellington. [Lana] Thank you Tim Burton. You really know how to make a holiday movie. I never know whether to watch this at Christmas or at Hallowe’en, so I normally do both and then a few times in the summer.
9. The Year Without a Santa Claus (1974) – “If Santa Stayed Home, Why There Would Be No Christmas.” [John] I had forgotten about this one until Lana re-introduced me in 2014. I am very grateful for the reunion as I definitely do love this one a lot. [Lana] *singing* “They call me Snow Miser. Whatever I touch turns to snow in my clutch. I’m too much.” This should be called The Year With The Miser Brothers. They are the stars of the show. [John] It’s unfortunate that you don’t like this movie much, Lana. Really too bad you know nothing about it.
10. A Christmas Carol (1951) – “Charles Dickens’ Immortal Christmas Classic.” [John] For as much as I love the Muppets, if I can only watch one version of A Christmas Carol during the season, this must be it. It is definitely my favourite version, though a close friend insists I must give the Disney animated version with Jim Carrey a shot. Maybe next year. [Lana] Yes you should definitely give it a shot but Alistair Sim is the quintessential Scrooge. Just watch his face; he is truly a great actor.
11. It’s A Wonderful Life (1946) – “I Suppose It Would Have Been Better If I’d Never Been Born at All.” [John] We had an opportunity to see this in the theatre this year and we jumped on it! We took my aunt with us and what an incredible experience it was! So cool and special. I gained so much more out of this screening than any other time I’d watched the movie. My aunt also had a great time - what a special night for us! - and I highly recommend seeing it in the theatre any time you might have the opportunity. [Lana] If I were to watch only one Christmas movie, this is it. This has long been my absolute favourite. I almost lose it every time the community rallies around George.
12. White Christmas (1954) – “Joyous Entertainment for Every Season, Any Year.” [John] Another must for me. A dear friend introduced me to this one some years ago and it immediately became a favourite. Makes me cry every time I watch it. Technically, Lana saw this one a couple of weeks ago but as I had already retired for the night, she graciously watched it with me again (thank you!!). [Lana] I don’t know how this happened, but somehow John seems to think that I’m not fond of this movie and that he forces me to watch it with him. Sooooo not true! [John] Dude. You told me two years ago that you don’t like it and that you would watch it with me if you absolutely had to. [Lana] I don’t recall that. *snicker* Anywho… it’s got Bing! It’s got Danny! Fun times! [John] So you lied, then? Okay. [Lana] Nooooooo. [John] Oy.

[John] That marks the official 12 movies. A number of bonus movies were squeezed in, mostly by Lana though she did trick me into watching A Charlie Brown Christmas, thinking it was one of the 12. I love that movie… totally didn’t know it would be a bonus. Lana is a total trickster.

[Lana] I don’t know what you’re talking about.

[John] We also watched Black Christmas as a promise to my cousin and her husband… and I had forgotten most of it so I’m really happy we watched it. Thanks cousin!

Bonus Movies

1. A Christmas Horror Story (2015) – “You Better Watch Out.”
2. Elf (2003) – “This Holiday, Discover Your Inner Elf.”
3. Bad Santa (2003) – “He’s Very Naughty… and Not Very Nice.”
4. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) – “Inside a Snowflake, Like the One on Your Sleeve, There Happened a Story You Must See to Believe.”
5. This Christmas (2007) – “You Can’t Exchange Family.”
6. A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965) – “Happiness is Watching ‘A Charlie Brown Christmas’.”
7. Christmas in Connecticut (1945) – “It’s the Fun Show That’s the One Show to See!”
8. Fred Claus (2007) – “Everybody has That One Relative Who Can’t Help But Cause Problems Over the Holidays. Even Santa.”
9. Gremlins (1984) – “Cute. Clever. Mischievous. Intelligent. Dangerous.”
10. Trapped in Paradise (1994) – “The Story of a Town That Gave So Much…Even These Guys Couldn’t Take Anymore.”
11. Trading Places (1983) – “They’re Not Just Getting Rich…They’re Getting Even.”
12. Babes in Toyland (1934) – “1 and a ½ Hours of Laughter.”
13. Miracle on 34th Street (1994) – “Experience the Miracle.”
14. The Ref (1994) – “They Might Be His Hostages But what They Are Doing to This Guy is Criminal.”
15. Four Christmases (2008) – “His Father, Her Mother, His Mother and Her Father All in One Day.”
16. The Santa Clause (1994) – “This Christmas, the Snow Hits the Fan.”
17. Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984) – “You’ve Made it Through Halloween, Now Try to Survive Christmas.”
18. Deck the Halls (2006) – “There Glows the Neighborhood.”
19. The Family Stone (2005) – “Feel the Love.”
20. Black Christmas (1974) – “Black Christmas Will Rock You Too!”

Songs

1. Peace on Earth / Little Drummer Boy – Jack Black & Jason Segel [John] This felt like a nice alternative to the usual David Bowie/Bing Crosby duet – which I love dearly.
2. The Night Santa Went Crazy – Weird Al Yankovic [John] Lana is a massive Weird Al fan so this had to be included.
3. Krampus – Midnight Syndicate [John] This felt appropriate considering it was Krampusnacht and we love Midnight Syndicate.
4. Fairytale of New York – Ben Caplan and the Trondheim Soloists [John] I really love this version a lot and decided it would be nice to include.
5. Baby It’s Cold Outside – Zooey Deschanel & Leon Redbone [John] A really nice version, from Lana’s favourite movie Elf.
6. Christmas in Hollis – Run DMC [John] It’s Run DMC… what more needs to be said?
7. Marshmallow World – Bing Crosby & Ella Fitzgerald [John] Bing and Ella… just makes me so very happy.
8. Coventry Carol – Sufjan Stevens [John] My favourite carol and I think this is my favourite version.
9. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas – Lou Rawls (away TEAM remix) [John] Love.
10. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) – Joey Ramone [John] Joey Ramone had to be in the list.
11. When a Child is Born – Boney M [John] If I don’t have Boney M, I don’t have Christmas.
12. The 12 Days of Christmas – Bob and Doug Mackenzie (Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas) [John] This requires no explanation. [Lana] It is now time for us to take off, you hosers.

[John] Well… that’s it for our December challenge!

Merry Christmas everyone and thanks for joining us on this ride! We hope you all enjoy the holidays and we wish you all an incredible 2016!! Go on some road trips, check out some galleries and make every day an experience!

12 Days of Christmas - A Musical Perspective

DECEMBER 24th, 2015

By LANA CARBON & JOHN LILIES

Most of us have sat around a tree at Christmas time and sang (in our case, very poorly) the 12 Days of Christmas. Originally published as a chant without musical accompaniment in 1780, it wasn’t until 1909 that the English composer Frederic Austin gave us the version we know today.

I thought I would write out the song to see how close I came to the original and was shocked to see I was right for a change. It usually takes me a few times to remember the correct order of the lyrics and I wondered if I was the only one. So of course I asked John to see how close she came to the proper order. I must say, I was in for a treat.

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12 Days – The John Version

On the 1st day of Christmas my true love gave to me a partridge in a pear tree.

On the 2nd day of Christmas my true love gave to me 2 turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the 3rd day of Christmas my true love gave to me 3 french hens, 2 turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the 4th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 4 calling birds, 3 french hens, 2 turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the 5th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 5 maids a milking, 4 calling birds, 3 french hens, 2 turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the 6th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 6 swans a swimming, 5 maids a milking…

On the 7th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 7 pipers piping…

On the 8th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 8 drummers drumming…

On the 9th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 9 ladies laughing…

On the 10th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 10 lords a leaping…

On the 11th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 11 bats eating pizza (I think John got a little lost at this point)…

On the 12th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 12 bottles of vodka, 11 bats eating pizza, 10 nerds in a barn, 9 cats drinking milk, 8 puppies playing fetch, 7 hamsters running in a circle, 6 maids playing tag, 5 drummers drumming, 4 calling birds, 3 french hens, 2 turtle doves and a partridge in my fried brain.

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Surprisingly, these are not the right lyrics (I know, it blew my mind too).

Do you know the actual lyrics? Do you have your own version you’d like to share? Email us with your version or recollection and we may choose to share it here on the blog!

Speaking of alternative versions, many artists have recorded different takes on what kind of gift-giving occurred during these 12 days. Here are a few of the more popular (and humourous) takes on the traditional classic.

Bob and Doug Mackenzie – 12 Days of Christmas

Jeff Foxworthy – 12 Redneck Days of Christmas

Bob Rivers – 12 Pains of Christmas

Fay McKay – 12 Daze of Christmas

(As always if you have suggestions to others we should look into please just let us know in the comment section here or on our Facebook page or Twitter.)

Over the course of writing about our December theme, we became inspired and even managed to pen our own version of the song that we know you will want to sing while sitting around your fireplace this year… after imbibing in a few eggnogs perhaps.

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The Carbon Lilies 12 Days of Christmas

On the 1st Day of Christmas my true love gave to me an article for our blog.

On the 2nd Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 3rd Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 4th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 5th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 6th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 7th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 8th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 8 elusive éclairs, 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 9th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 9 margaritas, 8 elusive éclairs, 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 10th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 10 Spooktacular people, 9 margaritas, 8 elusive éclairs, 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 11th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 11 art exhibits, 10 Spooktacular people, 9 margaritas, 8 elusive éclairs, 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

On the 12th Day of Christmas my true love gave to me 12 senile ghost hunters, 11 art exhibits, 10 Spooktacular people, 9 margaritas, 8 elusive éclairs, 7 movie passes, 6 road trip stories, 5 Haunted Walks, 4 Big Séance hoodies, 3 weeks of transcribing, 2 ponche de crème and an article for our blog.

To be totally honest, we would have loved to have recorded this to share with you all but a lack of time and any discernible singing talent whatsoever prevented that from happening. Who knows, maybe one day we can include it in our list of 12 Christmas songs.

Happy 12 Days everyone… make them musical!!

(You can email us at carbonlilies@hotmail.com)

The Twelve Days of Christmas

DECEMBER 21st, 2015

By LANA CARBON

If you have been following our social media accounts lately, you may have seen that we are watching 12 Movies and listening to 12 Songs for the 12 Days of Christmas. We started on the 1st of December to give us extra time to ensure we get all 12 movies watched in a timely fashion (a lesson we learned doing our 31 Movies and Songs for Hallowe’en), especially considering how busy this month is for us.

How did we come to the magic number of 12? Why it’s from the song of course but that got me to thinking…when are the actual 12 days of Christmas? My original thought was that they were the 12 days prior to and including the 25th…that would explain the gifts would it not? Christmas Day is the day almost everyone exchanges their gifts so it had to be the culmination of this entire gift giving goodness, right? Alternatively, it could be the first 12 days of December (a good way to start the month off with a bang) or perhaps the 12 days surrounding the winter solstice to honour the pre-Christian meaning of the season… I honestly didn’t know but my curiosity meant I would just have to find out.

As you might expect, the 12 days of Christmas are strictly Christian in nature. That made sense to me but I had no clue that the first of these days would be Christmas Day itself. I honestly thought it would have been the twelfth day. I will admit that I myself am not a devout Christian to say the least so I had no idea that there were so many days honoured between Christmas and a day called Epiphany. They represent the feast days of various saints as well as special feasts honouring other momentous occasions in the Christian faith.

Day 1: Dec. 25th Christmas Day – The birth of Jesus.

Day 2: Dec. 26th Boxing Day (A.K.A. – St. Stephen’s Day) - St. Stephen was the first Christian Martyr. He was stoned to death for foretelling the coming of Jesus. (Interesting note…this is the day that the events of the carol Good King Wenceslas occurred).

Day 3: Dec. 27th John the Apostle Day – Most trusted friend of Jesus.

Day 4: Dec. 28th Feast of Innocents – Day to honour the boys killed while Herod was looking for Baby Jesus.

Day 5: Dec. 29th St. Thomas Becket Day – While he was the Archbishop of Cantebury, St. Thomas Becket was murdered for challenging King Henry II for authority over the church.

Day 6: Dec. 30th St. Egwin of Worcester Day – I couldn’t find much on St. Egwin other than he is the Patron Saint of orphans and widows as well as Evesham Monastery (if you have more information please feel free to let me know).

Day 7: Dec. 31st New Year’s Eve (A.K.A. Pope Sylvester Day) – The Pope responsible for converting Emperor Constantine to Christianity.

Day 8: Jan. 1st New Year’s Day (A.K.A. Solemnity of Mary) – The day to honour Mary, Mother of Jesus.

Day 9: Jan. 2nd St. Basil Day – St. Basil was a key figure in the liturgy of the Christian religion making him the Patron Saint of education, monks and exorcism.

Day 10: Jan. 3rd Feast of the Holy Name of Jesus – The day to celebrate the naming of Jesus.

Day 11: Jan. 4th St. Simeon Stylites Day – St. Simeon was so dedicated to his prayers that he chose to live on a pillar for 37 years in order to avoid earthly distractions. (Alternatively, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Day – Founder of the Sisters of Charity School in the United States. She became the Patron Saint of Catholic Schools.)

Day 12: Jan. 5th Epiphany Eve (A.K.A. The Twelfth Night) – The evening before the Wise Men came to the Baby Jesus. It became tradition to add the Three Wise Men to the Nativity scene before the decorations came down the following day.

In the Tudor era, the rich would swap places with their servants for a party held in the evening of the Twelfth Night to mark the end of winter. Pipes, especially bag pipes, were played as well as games such as “Pass the Egg”, “Egg Toss” and “Snapdragon” - a dangerous game where one would pull dried fruit out of a tray of flaming brandy (Thank goodness Hasbro didn’t scoop up the rights to that one). A pea or bean would be baked into a cake and whoever found it within their share would become the Lord or Lady of “Misrule Night” and be treated like a king or queen (later a second pea or bean was added so that there would be both Lord and Lady).

Twelfth Night by Jan Steed

From what I hear, it is good to be the King. Perhaps I will never be King but I shall revel in the fact that I now know more about this wonderful time of year…and the next time someone asks you about the 12 Days of Christmas, you too will know exactly when they are… “And knowing is half the battle!” (To quote one of my favourite Saturday morning cartoons). After reading this article, send us a comment on Facebook or tweet us with the name of the cartoon if you know the one to which I am referring.

This week, we will be back with our big reveal of the 12 Movies and 12 Songs for the 12 Days of Christmas. Don’t miss out!

Black Creek Pioneer Village: Christmas by Lamplight

DECEMBER 15th, 2015

By LANA CARBON & JOHN LILIES

[Lana] In a world full of modern conveniences, it can sometimes be difficult to imagine what life was like back in the 1800’s (don’t just try to Google it, it isn’t the same). Without the internet, movies or television, so many people would be at a loss… but what if they didn’t even have electricity? It’s okay. We still have our electricity. It was only an exercise in pretending. Please don’t panic. If the scenario has you intrigued however… read on.

We wanted to do something special this year in honour of the holidays and when we saw that the Black Creek Pioneer Village was hosting their Christmas by Lamplight event on one of the days we were free to attend, we bought our tickets right away.

[John] I had attended this event once, about six or seven years ago, and had a fun time so I wanted to take Lana and share the experience with him. I knew he would truly enjoy it.

[Lana] Located in York Region, the Black Creek Pioneer Village opened its doors in 1960 as a representation of how a community would have existed in the early to mid-1800s in Southern Ontario. The farmlands of Daniel and Elizabeth Stong (the first European pioneers on the land) are the heart of the village. This includes their first home which was built in 1816 and barn, as well as their second home built in 1832; all of which having been meticulously restored. The village would also boast a blacksmith shop, a store, another home and a church. Over the next couple of decades, the Metropolitan Toronto and Region Conservation Authority (now simply the Toronto and Region Conservation Authority) saved other historical buildings from all over Southern Ontario and transplanted them to the 30 acre Village.

The staff dress in period costumes of course, and talk about life back in that era while demonstrating their jobs (blacksmith, telegraph operator, baker, etc.) or showing how it was to try to take care of homes with such large families.

For these reasons alone, we would have gone to enjoy the old stories, sights and sounds but at this time of year, the tour is even more special. This is when the Christmas spirit invades the Village. Christmas by Lamplight is what they call those evenings where they stay open late to allow their guests to experience the Village by candlelight.

I must add at this point that John is so creative that she crafted our very own lanterns to take with us. They were light, easy to carry, looked great and received many compliments from the others enjoying the festivities. 

[John] Aw shucks. Thanks. I don’t think they were really that creative; I wanted us to have lanterns to carry like everyone else would have but our budget meant – well, low-budget lanterns, so I figured I would just make them. Nothing fancy.  

[Lana] The tinsmith was our first stop and we were given the simplest but extremely cool little decorations to be hung on the tree or, if held properly and blown on with the appropriate amount of breath, became spinners.

The Edgeley Mennonite Meeting House was our first taste of Christmas music as we walked in to hear two gentlemen playing Jingle Bells while three youngsters accompanied them with sleigh bells.

It wasn’t too much further along the pathway until we came to the bonfire with the carolers. It was at this moment that the nostalgia of simpler times washed over me. I could imagine that small town community where all the neighbours went out to share in their holiday spirit by singing together.

A couple stops later we found ourselves in the old Town Hall. I don’t think it would have been possible to cram more people inside but everyone was willing to put up with the tight quarters to make their own beaded ornaments…a souvenir from a time long past but made with those we love today.

The next homestead held great interest for us. The building itself was gorgeous…everything I would picture for a larger home of that era. The house belonged to a doctor who ran his practice from within those very walls. Here we also had the opportunity to listen as more carols were played, this time on a gorgeous piano in the sitting room. This was also the start of a new trend…holiday snacks. Just a little, only enough for a taste, but oh so good. 

[John] It was lovely watching and listening to the pianist casually entertain everyone. His music was beautiful and really filled the room with a special ambiance. I wanted to sit on the chesterfield and get cozy with a blanket and hot cup of cocoa and take it all in, watching his fingers dance over the keys.

[Lana] The next couple of buildings were too busy to stay for very long; apparently everyone loves to hear about printing presses and blacksmithing. The shoemaker’s home had become Santa’s temporary home (cobbler’s elves / Santa’s elves… I think I’m seeing the connection here) and as much as we love Santa, we thought we would give the kiddies a chance to visit with him so we moved on.

The Burwick House was the highlight of the night for us. We walked inside to the sound of old folk music. Three musicians (a guitarist, fiddler and banjo player) were playing beautiful toe-tapping tunes that we just had to stick around for. It was a heart-warming thing for me to see John’s face light up with a huge smile. 

[John] I would not hesitate to say this was my favourite house in the Village. I’m a big fan of the fiddle and, well, a fan of music. These gentlemen made me incredibly happy and I did not want to leave. It took me back a few years to my cousin’s house at Christmas, with her dad playing guitar, her brother playing the fiddle and everyone singing along. This was a fantastic part of our evening; recalling it now makes my heart smile.

[Lana] Somehow we managed to pull ourselves away and continued with our adventure. We took a quick stroll through the one classroom school and across the bridge to see the impressive Roblin Mill (the last working stone mill in the Toronto area). I really wish it had been open for us to explore. Also located in this little section of the Village was the church and minister’s home. Personally the most interesting thing that I found here was the Noah’s Ark play set. Everything from the Ark to each animal was carved out of wood. These were simple toys for the children which allowed their imagination to run free.

We backtracked then to the home stretch, as it were. The only building we had yet to visit was the Halfway House Inn, which in this case meant halfway to your destination on the other end of town. The bar area was set up for games as well. Across the hall was a huge dining area fully decked out with Christmas dinner and all the fixins. We didn’t end up going upstairs to the actual rooms, or downstairs which now houses the Black Creek Brewery (both were just far too crowded).

The next stops were the buildings which started it all…the houses of the Stong family. There was certainly a huge (figuratively and literally) difference between their first and second houses. Set up only a couple dozen feet apart you could see how prosperous they had become over those couple decades between the homes being built. I still have no idea how a family of nine could possibly have lived in a two-bedroom home. 

[John] It did make me wish I could be less dependent on material things taking up space. However, material things we do have and our books alone would fill half that house, and Lana’s DVD collection… well… suffice it say there would certainly not be room for nine people to occupy any space after the movies were added.

[Lana] Laskay’s Emporium was the true hub of the village. It was a true general store acting as everything from grocer, hardware, clothing, boots and shoes and post office. Here we made our own embossed Christmas cards and were able to send a Morse Code telegraph (which we dedicated to all our readers).

[John] It still amazes me that people could learn to be proficient in Morse Code. Being able to watch the telegraph operators translate our message into a series of choreographed taps on a little machine was mesmerizing for me. I wished we could spend more time observing the process but we did have to move along and so after retrieving our message (from the other side of the shop), we pressed on.

[Lana] With only two brief stops along the remainder of this main road at the saddle and harness shop (where we learned about the different bells used depending on how many horses were pulling your sleigh/carriage) and the firehouse with the old water pumper, we were back to where this whole adventure had begun. There was only one side road which we had yet to take and we had purposely saved it until the end. We barely re-read the sign as our pace quickened. We were on our way to get some hot chocolate and roasted chestnuts (hot cider was also available for those who enjoy that sort of thing). With hot drinks in hand, we decided we would return to the much more modern ticket area/museum/gift shop.

[John] This was Lana’s first time trying roasted chestnuts; he was not a fan. I however, quite enjoyed them and I loved the look on Lana’s face as he tried really hard to appreciate the experience of eating them. It was very entertaining and he did give it a good effort.

[Lana] We took a quick tour of the museum items (including a gingerbread replica of the entire village), picked up a souvenir postcard (as we try to do everywhere we go) and said our fond farewells to the Black Creek Pioneer Village.

[John] This was such a lovely experience and really filled me with the Christmas spirit. It was an odd feeling to roam through the Village as we did, taking in the atmosphere and seeing the employees in period costumes; while planes were flying overhead and street traffic was flowing through one of Ontario’s major universities across the street. Regardless, it was a special night for us both and I am very happy I made us lanterns to carry as it added a lot to the experience; and the light was quite welcome in some of the areas we crossed, as darkness flooded most parts.

[Lana] For anyone in the area, or who is thinking of a vacation to the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), we strongly suggest a visit to Black Creek Pioneer Village any time of the year but especially during the Christmas by Lamplight festival.

(*Side note to our friends of the paranerdal nature, there is also a ghost tour in the fall nearing Hallowe’en, for those so inclined.)

We Interiew Patrick Keller: Part 3

DECEMBER 10th, 2015

By LANA CARBON & JOHN LILIES

[John] Well here we are with Part 3 of our interview with paranerd Patrick Keller – our last installment of this great experience.

In Part 2, we learned more about the Big Séance Podcast, how Patrick started podcasting and the importance of being a nerd. You can click here to read Part 1 if you haven’t had a chance to yet!

Join us now for Part 3, as we look deeper into what makes Patrick the fantastic nerd he is and what might be coming up in the future.

Begin Part 3 - pour yourself a big relaxing drink, grab your most comfortable blanket, get really cozy and join us in Patrick’s parlour for the last part of our wee chat.

November 22, 2015

[Lana] Can you think back over the whole year of podcasting and tell us your favourite interview, or your favourite episode if they’re not the same?

[Patrick] I can definitely tell you that the easiest interview that I’ve done has probably been Karen A. Dahlman and that’s probably why she’s been back on about three or four times. If there’s any point where I have a brain fart or just stumble, she takes it up and she goes to something – she’s so smart. She is that intellectual [person] that I am not. She’s been a really good friend and she knows a lot about what I’m fascinated with.

The Hallowe’en shows in general were really fun. My interview with Lesley Bannatyne was really fun. That was actually one of the first episodes I ever listened to on the Paranormal Podcast – it was one of his early ones, that Hallowe’en. I was thinking, that many years later, ‘Oh my gosh! I’m interviewing Lesley!’ and it was just so cool and Hallowe’en is such a big thing that I’m nerdy about and you can tell when she talks about it. I mean, someone who talks Hallowe’en every year on a thousand different interviews, on different shows, you can’t tell she would ever get tired of it. She just loves talking about it. That was probably a really fun one to do.

[John] So if you had the opportunity, excluding the great guests you’ve already had on the show, who would you really love to invite into the parlour to interview?

[Patrick] It would be really cool if I can get to the point where I could have a conversation with some of our most famous paranormal TV personalities. Some of the TV paranormal investigators, because they aren’t easy I don’t think. Whether it’s something their contract says with studios, you don’t ever hear from them. Nowadays there’s a lot of speculation about what happens behind the cameras and how much those shows are produced and they’re accused of a lot of things that I don’t know are necessarily true or not. I haven’t really tried too hard to reach out to those people because I just assume that a little puny show like mine would have no chance but that would be really cool.

I’ve had a few listeners suggest some paranormal personalities, some who I’ve not even been aware of, so I’ve kind of investigated a little bit into them. There’s a psychic from a show [The Dead Files] – Amy Allan – and I’d never heard of her until someone suggested it and so I’m researching her. I don’t know if she would or how hard it would be to reach her but since that’s one of the biggest reasons why I got into the whole paranormal thing - that would be pretty cool.

I think a lot of people would love to peek behind the curtain a little bit, of the whole paranormal reality show. You know, is there stuff that shouldn’t go on behind the scenes? Is it all really real? How much of it is editing? How much of it is the fact that it’s produced? Sometimes I wonder, when I watch some of those shows, ‘are you still into this? Are you into it or are you just happy to have this cool gig with cameras following you?’ If you take away the cameras, would they still be out there getting no sleep, sitting in the dark all night long doing it? I really do think we’re in a heightened (it’s been a little over a decade now) paranormal craze and I really do think that eventually we’re gonna kinda come off of this craze; and the real paranerds are gonna still be there and I hope I’m still there. I don’t know, whether it’s 10, 15, 20 years from now when all the ghost hunters are retired or old, I want to be able to get that interview - [imitates older voice] ‘What was it like back in the day when you were on TV and what was really real and how was that?’ Maybe they’ll talk then. They’ll tell us all, when it’s all over.

[John] That’s awesome.

[Patrick] Yeah, the Ghost Hunter Retirement Centre. We’ll visit them all – see if we can get them all to talk. Ghost Hunter Manor.

[John] Could you imagine all of the supposed hauntings that would then happen as everybody is losing it as they get older? That could be a TV show in and of itself!

[Patrick] It also makes me think of when I die and cross over, and you know a lot of spiritual people will say ‘oh my gosh I can’t believe you would say that’ but I might not want to cross over immediately. I might want to go hang out at the Stanley for a while.

I might want to go to the creepiest location that has just been famous for being haunted and check it out. How do we know that Trans-Allegheny Asylum – how do we know that all those people haunting that place are really old patients? Maybe they’re just former ghost hunters that think, ‘Hey that was a cool place man!’?

[John] I have been saying, since I was probably about 13 or 14 years old, that when I die I want to hang out for a bit. I want to haunt people - not to scare anybody, legitimately; I just want to have a little bit of fun.

[Patrick] Experience it. Be on the other side of it.

[John] Exactly. If I go before you Patrick, I’m going to do my best to come by and play some tricks on you.

[Patrick] Oh will you please?

[John] Oh yeah!

[Lana] John will actually get your Ouija to work!

[John] Oh!

[Patrick] It’s funny because my mom and I definitely have a plan. I think probably my sister has a plan too. My mom, when she dies, she is going to come over to my house and write in the dust because I tend to not like dusting. That’s kind of a thing with us because growing up she used to always make me dust. She didn’t like dusting either so I always had to dust. Now that I’m an adult and have my own place, the place looks awesome – the place looks fabulous and everything is in its place – but don’t lick any of the surfaces because everything is dusty. So she knows that she can come somewhere and write in the dust, something like ‘Hi, it’s Mom’ or something. With her, she knows to be looking somewhere on her nightstand. I’m going to be messing with things that are on the nightstand definitely. That’s gonna be my calling card right there.

[John] I keep saying I’m going to be the one who, as you put your coffee cup down and you turn away to do something, when you come back your coffee cup is going to be on the other side of the room.

[Patrick] I’m going to write that down. I’m going to remember that. Of course, hopefully by the time you die, we will both be very old and the question will then be, am I senile? ‘The coffee cup didn’t just move over there. I’m just crazy.’

[John] So in that case, I’ll do it to everyone else around as well so they don’t think you’re the only crazy one.

[Patrick] There will be no question.

[John] It will be a collective crazy.

You have sort of indirectly answered the next question but I’m now going to go for the direct answer. What tips would you have for anybody who is really interested in getting into podcasting?

[Patrick] I would say if you are going to search for how-to stuff, try to get it from one source so that you get everything in context; because there is a lot of suggestions about mics, a lot of suggestions about little techy things that you might not necessarily need yet. Don’t get the whole, entire podcaster package from the beginning because there are a lot of people that start - I think they say episode seven is the magic episode where people either decide they can’t do it and they give up or they keep going. So maybe you get some cheaper equipment. There are some cheaper USB microphones you can get and do a couple episodes and see what you think. Even before you invest in getting the server space, like I have libsyn (libsyn is the most popular), just go to one place so that you can get accurate information from that one person. If you get pieces from here and there, that could be kind of dangerous - you could be missing something. You know, Jim Harold’s course was really good too and it was a course that I feel like I could trust with the information I was getting; but technology keeps changing. You can do it for free - there is not anything really that you have to pay for. There is enough information out there - just be careful getting information from a lot of different sources.

Know what you are going to podcast about. I think that is a big thing in podcasting. Some people get fascinated with the whole speaking on the mic thing and then they get their podcast and it is like `Oh what was I going to talk about? What do we have that we can talk about?’ Know your passion first. Pick your niche and go with that. Is that nerdy enough?

[Lana] That was good, yeah.

Going to try to get you to go out on a limb now. As of when we recorded this interview, you will have 48 episodes. What do you have planned for number 50? It is a landmark – it’s a milestone.

[Patrick] Oh my gosh! Like I said earlier, I really don’t have anything planned. [Episode] 49 is you guys. It might be something that I mention, maybe. When I think of 50, I’ve heard a lot of people celebrate huge on episode 100 and 200 so it seems kinda silly for me to celebrate on 50. To me, it’s more of a big deal once I hit that two-year mark. Probably that will be more of a celebration for me than the number 50. I probably wouldn’t have thought about it actually. At the beginning of every episode when I say ‘this is episode whatever’ that’s really the first time I think of it. I have to look back to see what number it is and by that point the episode is already done so I probably wouldn’t have even thought about it until you said that. No pressure.

[John] Okay, well I’m challenging you now to think about it because 100 is huge and your two-year mark is huge. We just realized we never acknowledged our one-year mark of the blog but I’m going to challenge you to make 50 something special for you. Not for your listeners but make it special for you.

[Patrick] Okay. There is plenty of nerdiness for me. I can really be selfish. I’m good at being selfish. I can bust out some nerdiness.

[John] Go for it.

[Lana] Maybe the next question could lead into something you could do for the 50th then. Do you have any plans of doing anymore Live and Interactive video podcasts?

[Patrick] Karen, who was in my first Live and Interactive Video, she definitely is trying to get me to do another one. That was kind of a big step for me. Like I said at the beginning, as someone who is not incredibly social - someone who wants to be the best recluse ever when I grow up, I am very reclusive and proud of it usually. So being on camera, like hiding behind a mic is cool but being on camera, I was a little nervous. Plus, you know, I edit. Nothing I ever did was live. You can plan out what you’re going to say and edit out those stumbles and dorky things you say (like plenty of them that I’ve said tonight). It was a little nerve-wracking to be live on camera and not knowing what’s going to happen but I think there’s probably another one coming. I would probably need to investigate some tech things to make it sound better and it is getting better. Now there’s a thing called Blab that I guess everyone is doing. Blab.im - I think a lot of podcasters are doing that. People can chat and be interactive. There’s a couple different platforms, just in the last six months, have come up on the scene. So I know the sound quality and things are getting better. I was not super excited about the sound quality of that whole experience. It was cool to have the video. It was cool to have live interaction, which I had never done, that whole radio show kind of feel. So I think that will probably happen again. I’m hoping I can get it to sound better. That’s my hang up with it but it was fun and Karen is an awesome person to experiment on things like that with because she can just go on for like four hours without me being there.

[John] She also seems like an incredibly supportive person too, and that makes a really big difference.

[Patrick] Oh yeah. She’s very much like a coach. She is very busy too. There is sometimes when - well with me too - there are some parts of the year where I’m just non-existent because there’s so many things going on at school and concert season as a music teacher. But when she’s available, oh my gosh she helps so much – she’s been there for me in many ways. Not even just with the Ouija board. She is good for inspiration and very approachable. I think that’s probably the case with anybody who has tried to reach out to Karen. She’s really a cool lady.

[John’s note: At the time of publishing this article, Patrick has released Episode #50 – please go and check it out! Um… maybe after you’re done reading this article though.]

[John’s note: As we moved forward with our interview, Lana and I really pushed to try to get some more podcast news out of Patrick. We were clearly making Patrick think hard about his future…]

[Lana] Is there any other podcast-related news you’d like to share?

[Patrick] [John’s note: Patrick had to pause and think for a while before answering this one.] I’m trying a new windscreen on my microphone to keep me from popping my p’s.

[Lana] Sounds like it is working.

[Patrick] I’m actually doubling up. I’ve had a pop filter from the very beginning but apparently my p’s are so incredibly massive. Usually you only use a windscreen when you are outside in the elements and I was like ‘maybe I need to combine a windscreen with the pop filter’ and I think it has helped a little bit.

That’s probably not the exciting news you wanted.

[John] We’ll make it flashy for you. Maybe you could throw in a little song there. Maybe you could sing it for us.

[Patrick] WHAAAAT?!?

[Lana] A very small audio clip.

[John’s note: This suggestion clearly did not jive with Patrick, though I maybe haven’t stopped thinking about it and I maybe am wondering if I can eventually get Patrick to agree to a wee ditty.]

[Patrick] No you will not be getting me singing.

It is probably embarrassing how much I don’t have a plan right now. I was really worried right before Hallowe’en because last year I remember I had a lot more time to plan ahead and there were some weeks when I did have two episodes ready to go. This has been a busier year and I haven’t been able to put as much focus as I did before. I was kinda bummed for a while because I wasn’t sure exactly what I was going to do for the Hallowe’en season, which is the biggest time paranormal nerds are out there looking for content. So I feel I kinda just squeaked by that Hallowe’en season. I tried to do as many episodes as I could. I went weekly for about three weeks I guess, four weeks maybe. Usually every other week is it during the normal part of the year – I’m doing good if I can do every other week. I think part of that is I’ve learned to produce better and that might not necessarily be a good thing. That has maybe taken away from the more natural ‘whatever comes out’ kind of thing. There is a fine line between over-produced and there is a lot of things I take out and tweak that I can make sound better. Maybe I need to scale down some of that so I’m not spending 15 hours on one episode. If I cut that down, maybe I can have an episode every week. It just depends on what people like. Do people listen because - it is kinda the trend with podcasts nowadays is to have them be more produced. This American Life and Serial, you know everything is so produced (even though they’ve got a team of 20 doing it). Did that answer any question there?

[John] It did.

[Patrick] I’m usually pretty okay with there not being a plan. I would like there to be a plan. I’m more likely to have a plan when summer hits and I’m on a break, you know, when I can sit down with an old fashioned pen and paper and brainstorm on some things. Kind of like [John] said when you come home from work and you think of writing and it’s just not there. Sometimes you just don’t have any energy left for it. Although I will say I’m a late-night person and you’ve seen that, when I’m online. When I come back from school, that’s when I start falling asleep - before dinner. If I sit down before dinner I’m [snoring] in the chair but once eight o’clock hits, BOOM! I [eventually] have to remind myself that it’s probably time to go and get about four hours of sleep before I have to get up and do this whole thing all over again. That’s when the creative juices happen, so sometimes I get to planning then.

[Lana] So we did the interview too early today!

[Patrick] Well you probably noticed I tried to push it off a little longer than probably you would have liked to do.

[John] Oh it’s cool. I’m just going to make Lana stay up all night to start working on [transcribing] while I go to sleep.

[Patrick] It doesn’t matter how early I have to get up, I’m always gonna be a late-nighter. Summer is bad - it will sometimes stretch to four in the morning.

[Lana] Yeah, me too. We’ve probably talked around that time.

[Patrick] This morning, I woke up at 9:30. I could have easily woken up at 10:00 and most people can’t do that because they’re used to waking up at 6:30 so they naturally wake up at 6:30. Uh-uh. When school gets out, it takes me only a day to get into summer mode.

I know people say that you can’t stock up on sleep but, man, weekends - don’t mess around with my sleep. I hate the process of winding down and going to sleep on the weekends but once I’m asleep it’s nice. If I don’t have to be up, I am sleeping in. When you don’t have kids, you can be selfish. It’s a lot easier to do it that way.

[John] Although I’m sure Meril keeps you busy in the morning.

[Patrick] He does but my partner is usually the early morning person and I am not; there are times when we go to bed three or four hours apart so actually that allows for it. He can be up first thing in the morning, because I’ll take [Meril] out at 2:00 in the morning and he enjoys his late night walks. He’s kind of a night dog too. He generally likes when things are quiet. That’s when he eats. When things are really quiet and you’re trying to sleep you’ll hear [chomping sounds] at two in the morning. That’s when I guess he’s more comfortable, when things are quiet. From the time he was a puppy. He was better walking down the street – [where we lived] there were a lot town homes and so there were a lot people walking down the street, a lot of cars and everything – and I could tell that when it was dark and later at night he could relax more. He’s just like ‘This whole street is mine!’ Maybe I’ve rubbed off on him a little bit with some of my anxieties.

[John] We’re going to get you to really dig deep now.

[Patrick] Okay. Oh God I thought that was deep.

[John] What one thing would you like our readers to know about Patrick Keller?

[Patrick] I think it would probably be kind of along the lines of what I’ve already said - you’ve got to be two or three different kinds of nerd, like what I would tell my kids. Find something that even if everyone around you thinks it’s incredibly dorky or doesn’t matter or is silly, find some passions and try them out for a while, even if they don’t last very long - try researching it a little bit, pick up a book. If I would have known when I was in high school how much I would love reading now, you know I embarrassingly never read the books I was supposed to, growing up. Pick up a book and force yourself to try it. And I want people to know, and I hope people get this; I don’t want them to think that I am trying to be some expert on something. Does that make sense?

[Lana] Totally.

[Patrick] I’m going to bounce from one topic to another. I’m gonna bounce from E.V.P. to Ouija board to something else and I’m not trying to be an expert and I don’t think anybody probably is an expert. Just go out and try things. Don’t be afraid. That would be another good one. Don’t be afraid.

Of course people have their experiences and I can only talk about my experiences but I think a lot of people read into other people’s experiences and develop this fear of the paranormal. At least from my experiences I can tell you that I don’t think there is anything - yes be cautious, yes be wise - but you have to be cautious and wise when you go get your mail out of the mailbox on the street too. You have to be cautious and wise with everything. If it is something that you are curious about, I really do think that sometimes there are people or spirits on the other side that are reaching out and it’s not always a demon and it’s not always something that accompanies a sound effect from TV. It might just be someone reaching out just letting you know that they’re there. So don’t fear so much, don’t let other people’s fears influence you. That was kind of a mixed bag of responses right there.

[John] Did you even know you had so much to say about it?

[Patrick] On a roll!

[John] Okay so we are going to keep it going. We’ve got three more questions for you.

What inspires you?

[Patrick] What inspires me? [Thinking…]

So I have always been a music nerd; from the very beginning I was a music nerd. I have even blogged about this I think a few years ago. There would be times growing up when I would be in the corner of my room just kinda huddled listening to my walkman. Listening to either film score music (John Williams - I was really into Jurassic Park, E.T., just the film scores of it) even when it had words that went along with it - I’m not a lyrics person, I’m not a words person; sometimes just the right music, the right notes that happen in a pattern, the right harmonies that happen at one time – I really do think can really set off a meditative state or just send me to this other world. My parents, a few times, would catch me crying listening to music and think ‘Oh my God, is he okay? Do we need to get him some help?’ No, it was just that I was being moved by whatever music that I was listening to. It could have been a song about pizza but I was moved because the right notes and harmonies happened at the right time and something clicked in my head.

Every now and then I go back to that and if I have my earbuds in and I listen to the right song, even if it’s – like, oh my God there’s this Sheena Easton song I was listening to the other day and I don’t even know – don’t ask me how; you know sometimes you get in these YouTube rabbit holes where you just go from one to the next and you’re like ‘how in the world did I get here?’ I downloaded one of Sheena Easton’s best-of albums and it had been such a long time since I had heard some of her songs and I’m just jammin’ out to this Sheena Easton song. That’s shameful, right? That’s shameful and I listened to it like 20 times. I listened to it for three days straight and I got so much out of that and now, not so much. It did what it needed to do; it put me in a happy place. It probably gave me some good vibes.

Every now and then something will, whether it be some current song that’s out or - film scores tend to do it for me. Broadway music tends to do it for me. Completely not paranormal but I can’t deny that I was originally a music nerd. That’s probably where I get, even if I don’t realize it, that whole meditative state. Now I think that probably, even if it is unconscious stuff going on, hopefully I get some inspiration from that. That’s my deep answer.

[Lana] So in short, Sheena Easton.

[Patrick] Sheena Easton, Debbi Gibson, ABBA…

[Lana] A little Tiffany?

[Patrick] Michael Jackson. I have been a fan of a lot of shameful artists like that.

[John] Okay, I’m going to get you to dig even more.

[Patrick] Oh gosh, I’m going to need some therapy after this one. Maybe this is my therapy.

[John] What is your intention in this life?

[Patrick] [Thought-filled sigh] Oh my God, this is like Oprah.

[Lana] These are [John’s] questions by the way.

[Patrick] My intention in this life… [Thinking]…

I don’t necessarily think I’ve succeeded yet but I think about this with my kids. I teach at such a large school and have had a gajillion students especially when I first started. At the end of a three-year rotation I would have had every single student in the building; and I still have a lot of kids now but I don’t necessarily see as many now but it is thousands and thousands of kids whose faces I almost always remember (I don’t always remember their names). I guess sometimes, because everybody will have a stressful day and with any job you have frustrating days or you wonder if what you are doing is working; I guess I want people to feel valued.

I want to know that I made a difference in a student’s life even if it’s just that they saw that I was a giant big nerd and so it was okay for them to be a giant big nerd. I guess probably the same thing with the podcast and anything I’m lending my voice to. I don’t want to be doing it for no reason. I hope that there’s, in some tiny way, something that I’ve done for each kid that has gone through my classroom. Sometimes I get little hints and little pieces of evidence when kids come back and talk to me. Little things they remembered or little stories or something that we did that I don’t even remember and I’m like ‘okay cool, I’m creating memories’. Yeah. If I could just know that – I guess I just want to make a difference and contribute. Did that sound good? I’m channelling my inner Oprah.

[Lana] Yeah, very good. The last one is going to be a lot lighter. This might even sound a little familiar to you.

[Patrick] Oh okay.

[Lana] Other than a paranerd, other than a music nerd, what kind of nerd are you?

[Patrick] I am a puppy dog nerd. I love puppy dogs. My dog actually just came over and gave me a lick on the foot right now. I don’t know if he’s dropping hints to me, or what.

Oh gosh, I’m a book nerd. I’m a photography nerd. I haven’t done a lot of cemetery photography lately but there for a while I was really heavy into the cemetery photography and I feel like I learned a lot with that. I’d like to have time to do more of that. I wanted to do some this fall with all the pretty colours and everything but things were so busy it didn’t really happen. God, there’s all kinds of things I’m nerdy about why can’t I think about it? I really do subject people to pain when I ask them this question, don’t I? Oh my God, I don’t know what else to say.

I have a few random collections. I have my old yearbook collection. I thought I would take that further than it ended up going but I couldn’t find any more yearbooks. I was collecting yearbooks from my high school from my hometown from as old as I could get. I have this one from 1910 and then several from the 1920’s. I was hoping to keep going with that but I haven’t done a search for a while. That was kinda nerdy.

I get really into decorating for Christmas and I’m thinking about that in my head now. Being in a new house, a bigger house, and we have two giant bay windows. I’m like ‘Ugh, God that’s all I need are giant bay windows. Now I’ll have to put two giant trees up in the bay windows.’ I guess some people would say I’m pretty nerdy with that. I go in and out in phases with that.

I’m a candle nerd. I like to light candles a lot especially in the fall and the winter. I guess that’s it. I guess there is a limit to how nerdy one can get. Get back to me in two years when I shift into something new.

END PART 3 – OUR FINAL INSTALLMENT

[John] Well dear readers and friends, with that we had exhausted Patrick’s brain and needed to give both Patrick and Meril a break to refocus for our turn at answering questions. (Meril really is an incredibly cute and sweet puppy dog!)

Following our interview of Patrick, he turned the mic on us and recorded an interview with us for his Big Séance Podcast (holy nerve-wracking, Batman!). Many of you have likely heard that episode already but if you’d like to listen again or listen for the first time, please click here.

We wish to sincerely thank Patrick Keller for his time, friendship and incredible support of Lana and I and of Carbon Lilies. We truly are appreciative for our relationship with you, Patrick. You have given us so much that words cannot express the depth of our gratitude.

In honour of Patrick and the Big Séance Podcast, if you read through Part 3 then please tweet us @carbonlilies and Patrick @BigSeance with the two hashtags #paranerdalexperience and #puppydognerd.

Have a wonderful life experience lovelies and remember what Patrick said… don’t let other people’s fears influence you!